tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post4110291016674772579..comments2023-06-26T15:18:06.600+01:00Comments on The Sheridan Trial: Tuesday Morning updateUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-66508526983255309632010-12-16T14:06:05.863+00:002010-12-16T14:06:05.863+00:00Neckhlyudov
Just teasing us or are you going to y...Neckhlyudov<br /><br />Just teasing us or are you going to you explain?Maxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-6067049204611535012010-12-15T12:22:08.969+00:002010-12-15T12:22:08.969+00:00I've often thought that what T.S. neglects to ...I've often thought that what T.S. neglects to focus on (demanded by the witness's testimony or status) is as revealing as what he asks. His cross examinations of Nicholas McKerrell, Andy Coulson and, yes, Katrine Trolle come to mind.Neckhlyudovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-71353815277879317862010-12-15T00:09:52.022+00:002010-12-15T00:09:52.022+00:00"approximately 3,750 words of James’ report o..."approximately 3,750 words of James’ report of the cross examination"<br /><br />Really? I must admit I've never counted.James Dolemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774046346905734191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-26742485512398871122010-12-14T22:36:11.293+00:002010-12-14T22:36:11.293+00:00But tape is genuine = Sheridan is guilty, does it ...But tape is genuine = Sheridan is guilty, does it not?! Let's no got there... back to the "actor" theory... What if...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-85081083207958200922010-12-14T22:21:28.073+00:002010-12-14T22:21:28.073+00:00Peter said
Some people think it is Sheridan some ...Peter said<br /><br />Some people think it is Sheridan some do not. <br />Anybodys guess really. I give up.<br /><br /><br />Imagine you were the victim of a serious frame-up, instituted by a close friend in alliance with a national newspaper, where your identity was fabricated using an actor and you were portrayed as admitting to sexual engagements that could have serious marital and career repercussions. Imagine you get the opportunity to cross examine under oath the editor who authorised the purchase of the bogus tape for £200,000. How much focus would you place on the fake recording during the cross-examination and how would you be able to resist accusing the editor of either chicanery or crass stupidity? In the imagined scenario, T.S. would have had the opportunity to take apart, and even destroy, the career of, No 10’s Tory Director of Communications.<br /><br />And what do we get? In approximately 3,750 words of James’ report of the cross examination, Sheridan’s direct reference to the tape is covered in less than 200 words –less than 6% of the total. There is no attempt to establish the tape as a fabrication – no attempt to mock the judgement of an editor who spent £200,000 of his employer’s money on a supposedly counterfeit item. If anything, the tape is introduced in a token manner and then conspicuously avoided until A. P. refers to it later. <br /><br />That T.S. protests too little in an encounter of such significance indicates the tape is genuine.Neckhlyudovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-12890208135677676892010-12-14T22:10:36.465+00:002010-12-14T22:10:36.465+00:00good one Bunc alhough you have to say the People&#...good one Bunc alhough you have to say the People's Judean front were at least funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-2528185399449367412010-12-14T21:54:41.784+00:002010-12-14T21:54:41.784+00:00On a more serious note -
In my view, whatever th...On a more serious note - <br /><br />In my view, whatever the legal outcome of this trial the political outcome for the socialist left on Scotland is dire. It's been a damaging expose of the factionalism that seems to dog socialist politics ( same stuff was going on in my former Trot fringe IMG days at Uni - we hated the IS and they us.) It's all quite Pythonesque really. <br /><br />Peoples United Liberation Front vs United peoples Liberation Front anyone?<br /><br />None of the personalities in this come out with any great credit.Bunchttp://ayrshireblog.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-77266308313488605002010-12-14T21:53:29.740+00:002010-12-14T21:53:29.740+00:00@ Whatsy 4.03
Thanks for the reply. USeful to ha...@ Whatsy 4.03<br /><br />Thanks for the reply. USeful to have that clarified by those that were there.Sir Brian Hinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-4456924866076252422010-12-14T21:45:44.252+00:002010-12-14T21:45:44.252+00:00Allegedly.
( sorry - I couldn't resist the te...Allegedly.<br /><br />( sorry - I couldn't resist the temptation)Bunchttp://ayrshireblog.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-15030939188999595462010-12-14T21:45:27.722+00:002010-12-14T21:45:27.722+00:00well they got what they wanted even if TS walks fr...well they got what they wanted even if TS walks free he is still out of their hair and doubt he will get voted back in into the council again. He will just turn up at events shouting the way he used to get on the telly poor guy is more of a joke now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-82814586689636399892010-12-14T21:44:14.696+00:002010-12-14T21:44:14.696+00:00Hello Sir Brian, I don't track IP addresses an...Hello Sir Brian, I don't track IP addresses and while it would be easier if people chose a name they have a perfect right not to.<br /><br />Just to mention again, you do not have to register, just click on the third button below "Name/URL" and you can choose any name you wantJames Dolemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774046346905734191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-9215710788786358482010-12-14T21:41:46.592+00:002010-12-14T21:41:46.592+00:00Bunc, could you remember to say allegedly?
Thanks...Bunc, could you remember to say allegedly?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />JJames Dolemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774046346905734191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-81373418978575751202010-12-14T21:41:03.927+00:002010-12-14T21:41:03.927+00:00This is an excellent and informative blog James, a...This is an excellent and informative blog James, as many have said already.<br /><br />Would it not be possible to prevent people from replying as Anon? I'm not sure if you can see IP addresses (I assume you can) but post after post from Anon (the majority of which seem to be taking the same side, if I can say that) reduces the impact of the comments section.<br /><br />One last time Anon's choose a name, any name! - or don't post at all please. What have you got to hide that you can't think of a random name??Sir Brian Hinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-81935238280457361032010-12-14T21:40:24.193+00:002010-12-14T21:40:24.193+00:00Oh god no - the conspiracy grows - you mean the BB...Oh god no - the conspiracy grows - you mean the BBC has allegedly faked a tape of an alleged actor allegedly faking a response to an allegedly faked tape that they allegedly hadn't watched?<br />I need to lay down.Bunchttp://ayrshireblog.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-54077111309098904352010-12-14T21:26:32.820+00:002010-12-14T21:26:32.820+00:00anon 8.41
'He is supposed to have sworn at Fra...anon 8.41<br />'He is supposed to have sworn at Francis when she did not support him for going after the paper.'<br /><br />Yes, she claimed that, but what was crucially significant in my view is that she also told us that TS was unaware of having confessed the day before at the 9/11 meeting. This amongst other things has convinced me that she and the others out to remove TS had made their minds up and it wouldnt have mattered what he had said ( as Peter has expounded on earlier.)Maxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-92090907934447019562010-12-14T21:14:52.472+00:002010-12-14T21:14:52.472+00:00@ Seriously Wathcher, two days after the NotW had ...@ Seriously Wathcher, two days after the NotW had posted it and TS hadn't got round to watching it!? If it had been me, I would have been on the NotW website like shot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-9507140967988917242010-12-14T21:10:54.963+00:002010-12-14T21:10:54.963+00:00Anon 9:01, BBC Scotland did not show{~] a report o...Anon 9:01, BBC Scotland did not show{~] a report of Tommy stating that his voice may be in sections of the video. What they showed was a video of someone? TS? an actor? purporting to be TS "stating that his voice may be in sections of the video."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-41349521131675763572010-12-14T21:04:25.940+00:002010-12-14T21:04:25.940+00:00With respect anon Sheridan said that two days afte...With respect anon Sheridan said that two days after the video had appeared on the news of the world website, he had not had time to look at a copy. He said it might be spliced or it might be an actor, not unreasonable when you have not seen it properly.<br /><br />It certainly did not make a big splash in court IMHO.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-52659553041100424762010-12-14T21:01:01.298+00:002010-12-14T21:01:01.298+00:00BBC Scotland 6.30 news showed a report of Tommy st...BBC Scotland 6.30 news showed a report of Tommy stating that his voice may be in sections of the video. Where does this leave the evidence of witnesses who said the voice was not that of Tommy.<br />Even Tommy at one time believed it to be his voice and that the tape was a clips of his voice edited together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-86733935287321346022010-12-14T20:41:07.462+00:002010-12-14T20:41:07.462+00:00the one point we have missed is that TS was not be...the one point we have missed is that TS was not being himself through all this, his best man/friend said he had turned into an ar*e and turned on those who had supported him (which he did in court to his best friend and basically called the guy a not very nice person, dragged up his past) and when they did not support him for going after the paper the toy went out the parm and he started well all of this in motion. If he indeed dig himself into a ditch he may have become erractic enough to rant on more than he does normally.<br /><br />He is supposed to have sworn at Francis when she did not support him for going after the paper.<br /><br />Not on any side just saying that certain things are missing from our discussion here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-6734641641350848492010-12-14T20:39:14.125+00:002010-12-14T20:39:14.125+00:00Ever heard of "Democratic Centralism" y...Ever heard of "Democratic Centralism" yulefae?Wullie McGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-48945665231392737072010-12-14T20:16:17.310+00:002010-12-14T20:16:17.310+00:00Anon 8:02 The camera could have been controlled by...Anon 8:02 The camera could have been controlled by one of those "mulit-controllers", it could have been sat on the seat beside G McN. TS?/the actor? would have been none the wiser. Turning down a TV would have been an ideal pretext.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-64644274622440467302010-12-14T20:02:45.247+00:002010-12-14T20:02:45.247+00:00Anonymous said 7.37pm
'GMcN could have just t...Anonymous said 7.37pm<br /><br />'GMcN could have just turned the camera on by remote control when the door-bell rang at the alleged time and thrown the controller into the toy-box or something. Does kind of look like TS on that video, in my opinion.'<br /><br />OK but it doesn't answer the question!<br />We should still see the empty seat awaiting GMcN, the clatter of the remote landing in the toy box, the feet in the hall etc etc.?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-12610840112237637872010-12-14T19:58:19.898+00:002010-12-14T19:58:19.898+00:00Yulfae - Professor Nicholas Mc Kerrell was a very ...Yulfae - Professor Nicholas Mc Kerrell was a very professional person with his career still in progress. According to this blog Mike Gonzales is retired so he has a lot less to lose if you want to look at it that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-500792161594913167.post-20048636200887323542010-12-14T19:56:15.948+00:002010-12-14T19:56:15.948+00:00Why are the media showing the excerpts of the vide...Why are the media showing the excerpts of the video anyway - don't they usually wait until the trial is over?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com